By the tone of his response,i fear the worst for the site,which would be a great shame,i think Tim is missing a great oppertunity to improve, move forward,bring it up to date and give it a more modern approach ,big big shame 
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Im happy here, bit dissapointed to see people on .net though (that are supporting this site) I still trawl through it but have loged out so my name doesnt appear, I suggest we support this site by signing out of .net before going on. Perhaps if Tim see,s poor visits to the site he may take us seriously and persuade him to do something, just my opinion and my approach to the recent posts made by Tim.. Not happy with any of his responses...
If your going to run a site, members of that site must come first, not pride...
If your going to run a site, members of that site must come first, not pride...
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You will always find people who are really familiar with something going back to it. Me i am ok here so long as all the folk i cruise n chat with are here too. As for the knowledge base i would think that most on here will know how to do most stuff. My main reason for keeping away is because i think it is terrible the way Tim has handled the whole affair and to be honest this is a lot more upto date and cooler site, just so long as this keeps going then so will i s. I will keep upto date with the .net forum but havent posted for a while and dont really need to on the .net site.
bill
. I will keep upto date with the .net forum but havent posted for a while and dont really need to on the .net site.bill
I`m with you on this one Bill,couldnt agree more :-bd
My god what have i just said,agreeing with Bill s:rolleyes s
My god what have i just said,agreeing with Bill s:rolleyes s
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Its those fairy lights mate made you all s:s
bill
bill
Malcolm E Zed
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Are you drunk? s:mrgreenMAURICE THE MARTIAN said:I`m with you on this one Bill,couldnt agree more :-bd
My god what have i just said,agreeing with Bill s:rolleyes s
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oiy dont you go sticking up for him Karl. Its not often he agrees with anyone s:mrgreen
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Malcolm E Zed
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That is why I questioned his sobrietybillz said:
Mouldy
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I'm agreeing with TaffZee for the second time in as many days!!! Deleting whole threads. with some valid comments, isn't the way forward in my humble opinion and the question of how and where the donations previously made have been spent, still hasn't been answered. Perhaps he is waiting for .org to go 'belly up' and for all of us to return to .net.TaffZee said:
Over the last couple of days, there doesn't seem to have been as many members logged in, so maybe there are more of us that feel the same way.
I sincerely hope that the new home for the Zed fraternity has a long and meaningful future. The efforts made by Gary and James to provide us with a new Forum when .net was down, should be applauded and the site already has beneficial new features and a much more modern feel.
My only concern is the lack of a knowledge base, which in the long run could send us back to .net. For that reason, I would urge all of you who have the knowledge, to take a few minutes and write some fixes on here. It is clear that we cannot plunder the information on .net without causing legal issues, but there's surely nothing to stop us using our experiences to help guide a new membership through some of the difficulties of Zed ownership.
Well Said :ymapplause:Mouldy said:
This threat of losing the "Knowledge database" is total b*******s - .net is not the only Z site on the Interweb just use your search engine
Anyway given a bit of time we can create our own database on here - using the wiki format it will be more like an on-line searchable encyclopaedia and not lost in the forum banter
Re deleting posts on .net it's Tim's forum, so he can do what he likes to it :-s
Out of interest, did anyone get banned?
Anyway given a bit of time we can create our own database on here - using the wiki format it will be more like an on-line searchable encyclopaedia and not lost in the forum banter
Re deleting posts on .net it's Tim's forum, so he can do what he likes to it :-s
Out of interest, did anyone get banned?
Totaly Agree, 90% of the knowledge base has been taken from the Web anyway.NeRo said:This threat of losing the "Knowledge database" is total b*******s - .net is not the only Z site on the Interweb just use your search engine
Anyway given a bit of time we can create our own database on here - using the wiki format it will be more like an on-line searchable encyclopaedia and not lost in the forum banter
Re deleting posts on .net it's Tim's forum, so he can do what he likes to it :-s
Out of interest, did anyone get banned?
Banned. Not Yet s:ymtwisteddevil
We're here to stay, not even two weeks old and we are already building the wiki (thanks for the suggestion NeRo) with the help of Paul and others so it's not going to take long to get a real database of information together. NeRo is also spot on with finding the knowledge, if you search then it's not just available on .net. When it is available on .net you have to trawl to find it as the search on the site doesn't seem to work well so in effect, what is there, is already lost amongst everything else.
When you are adding your Zeds Christmas prezzies, take some pictures of before and after and just write a paragraph of what you did and we can add it in. If you can recommend car care products then let us know and why you think they are the best. Anything like that is useful to share and we now have the opportunity to get it all in one searchable system so it's really easy to find
When you are adding your Zeds Christmas prezzies, take some pictures of before and after and just write a paragraph of what you did and we can add it in. If you can recommend car care products then let us know and why you think they are the best. Anything like that is useful to share and we now have the opportunity to get it all in one searchable system so it's really easy to find
can i just ask that the knowledge base be kept factual.. banter's all well and a good laugh but when you need facts their and then (we've all been there) i'd like it to stay on track...
just a thought....
if you have a post in the knowledge base go copy and paste it...its yours at the end of the day!
as for .net i have to agree that when he removed the post asking the questions that we asked it was out of order.
that was/is our money payed in good faith and he hasn't even give a remote answer to where it went.....but im not going to sit here and watch people on the other site struggle with something i can help them with (i remember that heart sinking feeling when the lights come on the dash)....so i dont know.. i'd just like an answer to mine and other peoples question..then i could feel as though it was a justifiable use of funds...not a hard question?
just a thought....
if you have a post in the knowledge base go copy and paste it...its yours at the end of the day!
as for .net i have to agree that when he removed the post asking the questions that we asked it was out of order.
that was/is our money payed in good faith and he hasn't even give a remote answer to where it went.....but im not going to sit here and watch people on the other site struggle with something i can help them with (i remember that heart sinking feeling when the lights come on the dash)....so i dont know.. i'd just like an answer to mine and other peoples question..then i could feel as though it was a justifiable use of funds...not a hard question?
Exactly what I said in the Tims latest response. I simply asked if Tim's suggestions would be put towards the members prior to a decision and not just hidden for the admin team to read and then decide between themselves.TaffZee said:
I only said it because the members were the ones asking for the changes, not the admin team. Surely letting the members have a say in the decisions would help the forum and keep it together and alive in the future, as they know what changes they want. If the admin team choose a decision that the members don't agree with, they will just leave and the forum will slowly disappear.
When I posted this on there, I had a couple of replies saying that we were all just guests of the forum and don't have any rights. I totally agree with this but without the members there would be no forum, its very rare that you see the admin team posting regularly, its always the members.
I once got scammed on there once, tried to contact the admin team / mods to make them aware and got no reply whatsoever. It was not long before it happened to someone again, yet it was only Phil who was helpful and put contact details on the front page. It would be different if one of them was in the same situation, but that's another story. The members need to be respected and listened to or they will leave. This could have been / still be prevented but it looks to me like its only going in one direction.
We are also guests on here, but look at what a success this has been all because Gary and James have listened to out opinions and they have earned a lot of respect becuase of this. Well done team ^
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At the end of the Day its a car forum $-) . Why be so secretive about whats going on? and what the plans for the future are? why so evasive/non responsive regarding the cost to run the site? if your going to ask for funding the least you could do is inform the members why you require some of their hard earned cash, and what you plan to do with it, all seems a little hush hush to me, I think some people have been watching too many James Bond films (Shhh dont tell them that).
OK Tim owns the site, which has been a fantastic resource for its members.
But its the members I have to thank for that not the owner and the admin team, These are the people to thank. Tim should be thanking its members for making it such a success.
Tim has his followers that is evident by some of the posts on the site. Lets face it the site has gone stale. I for one think its about time we had a change, its us that pays the money for our cars. Without its members these site's are worth nothing.
OK Tim owns the site, which has been a fantastic resource for its members.
But its the members I have to thank for that not the owner and the admin team, These are the people to thank. Tim should be thanking its members for making it such a success.
Tim has his followers that is evident by some of the posts on the site. Lets face it the site has gone stale. I for one think its about time we had a change, its us that pays the money for our cars. Without its members these site's are worth nothing.
Jonttt
Zorg Addict
If your not already aware .net went through a very similar thing once before with a break away group of disgruntled users setting up a rival site, it survived and probably will again though it remains to be seen if it will ever be updated. It is what it is and that's the way I treat it.
It's worth noting re a knowledge base section that's it's very hard to keep posts on topic and concise and it's even harder to stop people asking questions in it as new threads. That's why the one on .net had to be locked with only admin moving posts to that section if requested to do so.
It's worth noting re a knowledge base section that's it's very hard to keep posts on topic and concise and it's even harder to stop people asking questions in it as new threads. That's why the one on .net had to be locked with only admin moving posts to that section if requested to do so.
Jonttt
Zorg Addict
Wow double post somehow
Thanks for reminding me Jonttt. I've set the permissions so that only mods/admins can post in the 'knowledge' sections.Jonttt said:
We will copy the threads in to the knowledge section. The banter can then be edited out of the knowledge version, whilst leaving the original thread untouched (and most likely full of pictures of sheep :-? ).
Cheers, Gary sB-)
Warrior
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There are possible advantages in not having a comprehensive knowledge database in that new owners asking questions will be able to engage with existing members as opposed to just being given a link to a dated sometimes rambling thread.
At times, when asking a question on .net exactly that would happen. Rather like meeting a fellow zed owner, asking what engine he had and him flipping the bonnet without uttering a word. :-\
The community on here will build more solid foundations as people do like to help others. Me as well, especially if you buy me beer :-bd