My TFS has the 2.0 six and my Z300S has the 2.8 six.
The 2.0 is my everyday car and although smooth and flexible down to low revs, I do miss that 50bhp sometimes.
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The 2.0 is my everyday car and although smooth and flexible down to low revs, I do miss that 50bhp sometimes.
You can put whatever badges you like on it. You can splash Maserati badges all over it and no-one can touch you. UK law is only interested if you try to make a living from those badges; ie exploiting someone else's brand for financial gain.
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The Eagle is a very good example of that .
Built by Jaguar on non registered e type chassis numbers. ( really interesting documentary on tv about it a couple of years ago)
Still not ratified by a number of the classic car fraternity as they perceive it as not an e type but a replica.
So i suppose reading all this the way i would see it is you build what you want on the budget you have for your personal enjoyment first and foremost.
Because as the Eagle represents even if the main dealer builds something as close to the original that you could get your never going to keep people happy
So yes personal enjoyment has to be first and for every car purist that nit picks about something there will be 100 people who don't know what it is and think its fantastic.
Stephen.
A very good point.
Ah but the Cobra was based on an AC Ace, which had a 2 litre 4 pot. Shelby took the Ace, shoved a 7 litre Ford Windsor V8 into it and made it the Cobra. AC never made a Cobra until AC was resurrected (many times) in the past decades.
So even a 'genuine' Cobra is a fake. Then the replicas became the normal Cobras, which are fakes, of fakes. Now Tribute Automotive make the God-awful Kobra kit which is a fake of a fake, of a fake.
All gets a bit complicated!
But surely anything that isn't the real item is a fake, however you dress it up?
Tony.
Tony.
I suppose it comes down to the meaning of the word 'fake' and what it means to the individual.
Fake is a word that instills notions of 'cheap copy' and 'counterfeit' to me.
Replica sounds better than fake, as it is replicating, or making something the same. The word 'homage' is French for 'showing respect to' which means next to nothing when it comes to cars IMO.
Words and their meaning count for nothing, it's the end result that will be judged. And the person who should be the best judge is the builder, or owner, of a 'fake' or 'replica' or 'homage'.
IN MY OPINION.
Fair comment. As you say "Replica" sounds better, but it's still just a fake. This why I can't get my head round the whole point of making a "Look-a-like". Each to his/her own.
Tony.
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Tony i used to know a guy years ago was right into kit cars ,rebodies etc a lot of his passion was for the build itself.
Doing the fettling and problem solving he loved the end product but his main passion was starting with car A and turning it into car B
Stephen.
I agree, weirdly. I can only speak for my reasons and I have learned they are not 'normal' in the strange world of 'kit cars'.
I found out back in 2016 that someone was making a kit for a Z3 which replicated the 250 GT California. I saw the film 'Ferris Bueller's day off' thirty years earlier and fell in love with the 250 'cali' (those were fakes in the film aswell). It is the prettiest car I have ever seen, bar none.
I tried to buy a DNA kit to emulate my favourite car, as I was never going to get one of the 57 real ones made. I was a few weeks too late, as DNA disappeared.
I gave up on the idea until I found (through this website purely by chance) that I could still get a copy of the DNA kit (a fake of a fake). So I bought one and a Z3 and here I am.
I am not a 'kit car' person. I am also not a Z3 fan (I am an E89 Z4 fan so don't shoot me), but I am a massive, massive 250GT California SWB fan. And if I do it right, I can make my (near as possible) favourite car ever. That's where I'm at!
Well, I can't fault that. I'm not a Z3 tbh, at the moment I'm with an E89. Can't see me ever having G29, I think I would rather have the Toyota variant.
Tony.
Tony.
I love 'pretty' things, especially when it comes to cars (subjective obviously). I do think the E89 is one of the prettiest cars on the road. The lines, especially in white, are a work of art. We had a white one, now have a blue one which is nice but not as good as Alpine White.
Still neither is a patch on the 250 Cali IMO.
I am not normal. That I am acutely aware of.
thats why we get on 
Tribute's most popular body kit. Probably can't make them fast enough (my guess- I haven't spoken to Chris or Dan lately).
Sorry. No offence intended!
All Aces had a six cylinder engine- AC's own, Bristol or Ford Zephyr.
I remember seeing them driven from the Isleworth coachbuider who made the bodies, back to Thames Ditton.
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Fake, homage, replica? Fake of a fake?
Maybe the real Fake is the car that is really, really, really trying to look like the original. Look at me I'm a genuine . . . . . . . . . . (Insert favorite car here). A bit like the loud talking guy in the red braces lifting his arm a bit more than necessary so everyone can see the fake rolex.
On the other hand somebody building a car with some similarity to some other car but not even attempting to make a close copy. That's not a fake. It's not trying to fool anyone. It's just a piece of tongue in cheek fun.
Maybe the real Fake is the car that is really, really, really trying to look like the original. Look at me I'm a genuine . . . . . . . . . . (Insert favorite car here). A bit like the loud talking guy in the red braces lifting his arm a bit more than necessary so everyone can see the fake rolex.
On the other hand somebody building a car with some similarity to some other car but not even attempting to make a close copy. That's not a fake. It's not trying to fool anyone. It's just a piece of tongue in cheek fun.