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GazHyde

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I've just updated the power board in the second post with all the results from yesterday. I'll try and fill in some of the gaps now...

@Oldguysrule's 2.8 was on it's third power run, the first was the baseline before mods; the second after the manifold and ECU change; and yesterdays after fitting a cone filter and bored out throttle body. It started at 197.5, then to 215.1 and yesterday gave 222.1bhp. That's an increase of 24.6bhp over the cars baseline. Doesn't seem a lot, but the overal drivability on the car has hugely increased. I've sat in the passenger seat and it pushes you back in to the seat!

In comparison, @5harp3y's followed pretty much the same journey now apart from the throttle body. 1st run 205.8, yesterdays run 217.4 - so a increase of around 12bhp. Doesn't seem as much on paper, but the car hasn't done much mileage since the manifold was fitted so may need a bit longer for the ECU to adjust.

@spurs fan in a coupe 2.8 manifold swap ran at 211.1, again likely needs some more miles on as it was fitted the week before.

Not much more can be done with the 2.8s beyond the manifold swap, except for taking the engine apart and switching cams. Doesn't really increase the power, just moves it around. So realistically around 220 is pretty realistic for the swap.

An impressive run from @Mnbrennan's Imola Coupe, the power line on the graph was almost as straight as a die!

@Ianmc brought his S54 Coupe along, which has 230k on the clock returned 304.2. The dyno guy reckons his MAF is faulty as the fueling was "all over the place" on the graph. Ian intends to change the MAF and come back for a rerun at the next session.

@Nodzed brought the Alpina Roadster along, and again Charlie reckons the MAF is likely faulty for the same reason as Ian's Coupe. That said it still ran a decent 283.8. Again this will likely get rerun with a new MAF at the next session.

People may not know that @notzed is @Nodzed's son Martyn. Martyn brought his "family friendly wagon" along for giggles, a 335i estate with decat downpipes. As it's not a Zed it doesn't qualify for listing on the power board, but definitely worthy of a mention as it was only .4bhp off the top spot, which incidentally is held by his dad. There were a few minutes where Niall thought it had pipped his ///M Roadie, until I showed him it was just under. Poor Niall thought the world had stopped turning! But, it has to be said it's one hell of a family estate car!

@Shortie_gal's 2.2 proved to be as healthy as expected, hitting 169.7. It seems the 2.2's are pretty much consistently around factory/marketing figures, so this is a solid result.

Finally a shout out for @Rally's sons E30, which recently had an M44 1.9 from a donor Z3 fitted after he goosed the original engine. That pulled a healthy 143bhp!

Next rolling road session will be in a couple of months, so expect the board to grow a bit longer! We are starting to gain some interesting intelligence on the cars and engines through doing this, and I don't think I've seen a more comprehensive study on real world Zed engine performance anywhere else on the web!
 

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Cant have an old estate beating an Z3M, I'll keep my eye on him, If he gets it MAPPED he's banned :whistle: =))=))
 

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Some good results. Interesting on the 2.8 manifold swaps as this is something I'm definatley after doing. 20bhp for £200, £ for £ a very cheap power gain.
Maybe once us northern lot have had our rolling road day we can have a little competition, north verses south and all that. :D
 

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notzed

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Thanks for the mention @GazHyde

A solid performance from all motors! I'll hopefully be doing some small mods soon, up-rated alloy intake charge pipe and a dual cone intake system maybe. Might even stretch to a FMIC too! I'm sure that will get me the 0.4bhp to knock @Nodzed off of the top spot ;) Then the map. Wouldn't want to be accused of cheating haha

Thanks again
 

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We spoke about that remap Martyn, it’s got to be considered. Just think of how many times Niall will ask to borrow the estate car. :whistle:

Cracking day at the Rolling Road. It also goes to show how well you can diagnose any issues with the cars. So it’s a good health check. Well worth doing.
 

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Game on!!
I seem to have lost 20.8 horses from factory. Hopefully a new MAF will see them (or some of them) return to the paddock.
This could get compulsive!!:thumbsup::)
Good stuff, great to see the cars being run.
 

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Ok here's the Alpina, quite chuffed the old girl has a few miles on her. Specs are supposed to be 296bhp with 267 lb-ft torque so a few wild stallions have jumped the fence.

Apparently my MAF is knackered so she is fueling very lean at the top end.

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notzed

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We spoke about that remap Martyn, it’s got to be considered. Just think of how many times Niall will ask to borrow the estate car. :whistle:

Cracking day at the Rolling Road. It also goes to show how well you can diagnose any issues with the cars. So it’s a good health check. Well worth doing.
Definitely @pgunter he's actually never driven it properly! Maybe if I cut the roof off? :woot:

Yes, the diagnostic side of the dyno is a great addition. I was relieved and albeit a little surprised that my mixture was sweet after thinking I was running quite rich. Puts the mind at ease.
 

GazHyde

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Game on!!
I seem to have lost 20.8 horses from factory. Hopefully a new MAF will see them (or some of them) return to the paddock.
This could get compulsive!!:thumbsup::)
Good stuff, great to see the cars being run.
I could be said that with the mileage it's done, that only losing only 20.8 would be an awesome accolade for the engine! I really want to see what a new MAF does for it though :thumbsup:
 

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Thanks for the mention @GazHyde

A solid performance from all motors! I'll hopefully be doing some small mods soon, up-rated alloy intake charge pipe and a dual cone intake system maybe. Might even stretch to a FMIC too! I'm sure that will get me the 0.4bhp to knock @Nodzed off of the top spot ;) Then the map. Wouldn't want to be accused of cheating haha

Thanks again
You can't knock me off the power board my boy you need a Zed. :whistle::D:D
 

GazHyde

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Does it count if I buy a Zed badge? First Z335i? =))
Ask your Dad, he's got plenty spare :D

Or you could follow him and catch them as they fall off =))
 

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Ask your Dad, he's got plenty spare :D

Or you could follow him and catch them as they fall off =))
:wideyed: Not nice ..... they did fall off though :( ...............:D
 

GazHyde

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This is the power graph from @Oldguysrule 2.8.

The top lines in both series is the 222.1 run which is the addition of the open cone filter and the bored throttle body! The lower is just the M50 manifold and custom ECU where it made 215.1

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Red one - stock with Simota CAI = 148 whp
Green one - S52 cams, chiptune, Simota CAI, Alpina B3 3.3 manifold = 181 whp

To get results on the flywheel, from my experience, you have to multiply with 1.3125, so it would result in 194 hp before (red) and 237 hp - after (green). Looks like the best result for single vanos M52 compared to others. Since then I had upgraded headers and exhaust from stock to Supersprint catless, but haven't dynoed yet.
 

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Would love to get the Coupe back on this now
 
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