Interesting Take on the Legislation regarding Convoys..

[pgunter]

OK,

Having had a read of the latest BMW Straight Six magazine of the BMW CC regarding an article on the letters page and the requirement to inform the local Police regarding car meets and convoys I though I had better ask both Police forces in my local area regarding the South Downs Run I am planning.

The response was very quick.

Hampshire Police..

Dear Mr Gunter,

thanks for your email. There isn't anything required from you really unless any of the vehicles involved are of an abnormal size or peculiarity that would affect the normal flow of traffic.

You may wish to check the Hampshire County Council and Highways website nearer the time for any road closures or works in any case.

The main thing is to hope it isn't raining!
Enjoy anyway

Regards
Steve Wakeford
Inspector 2687 | Roads Policing Unit
Hampshire Constabulary & Thames Valley Police Joint Operations Unit

and

Sussex Police

Hi Paul ,

I have checked with the Road Policing Unit and there is no notification requirements for an event like this , it is just the normal Road Traffic Act that would still have to be adhered to .

For example if you wish to remain 'in convoy' no one would be allowed to block passage of another vehicle to allow this to happen , you would have to pull over untill everyone caught up .

Hope this helps and you all have a nice day !

Kind regards

Annabel Galsworthy
Contact Handler
Sussex Police

Tel 101



The secret it appears to not to mention the word Cruise or Rally.. I called my little run out a 'tour' of like minded owners.

After all the discussion regarding do we or don't we I thought it would not hurt.

@Andy McDonnell I thought you might find it useful. Its all in the spin on the words.

 

[Mint]

Great clarification Paul. Puts your mind at ease if nothing else. @Grumpy will be pleased to read this.

 

[andyglym]

@pgunter that's great feedback mate. Thanks for taking the time to write to the Constabulary and feeding back. Agreed, it's all in the words.

Cheers mate.

Andy

 

[pgunter]

@Andy McDonnell it is good just to get clarification. I would say though that if anybody is planning a run out or tour with like minded owners that they email the constabulary of the area just to get it all sorted. You only need one idiot on the day to ruin the whole run.

 

[Grumps]

Great clarification Paul. Puts your mind at ease if nothing else. @Grumpy will be pleased to read this.

I can handle it Dave don't worry! "You've got the wrong Dave, it's that one over there boss!"

 

[M666BMG]

A convoy of hairdressers! Don't forget your curlers pg

 

[pgunter]

Well its a convoy of like minded people.. So if you have some of yours spare Mark.. @M666BMG lol..

 

[Grumps]

OK,

Having had a read of the latest BMW Straight Six magazine of the BMW CC regarding an article on the letters page and the requirement to inform the local Police regarding car meets and convoys I though I had better ask both Police forces in my local area regarding the South Downs Run I am planning.

The response was very quick.

Hampshire Police..

Dear Mr Gunter,

thanks for your email. There isn't anything required from you really unless any of the vehicles involved are of an abnormal size or peculiarity that would affect the normal flow of traffic.

You may wish to check the Hampshire County Council and Highways website nearer the time for any road closures or works in any case.

The main thing is to hope it isn't raining!
Enjoy anyway

Regards
Steve Wakeford
Inspector 2687 | Roads Policing Unit
Hampshire Constabulary & Thames Valley Police Joint Operations Unit

and

Sussex Police

Hi Paul ,

I have checked with the Road Policing Unit and there is no notification requirements for an event like this , it is just the normal Road Traffic Act that would still have to be adhered to .

For example if you wish to remain 'in convoy' no one would be allowed to block passage of another vehicle to allow this to happen , you would have to pull over untill everyone caught up .

Hope this helps and you all have a nice day !

Kind regards

Annabel Galsworthy
Contact Handler
Sussex Police

Tel 101



The secret it appears to not to mention the word Cruise or Rally.. I called my little run out a 'tour' of like minded owners.

After all the discussion regarding do we or don't we I thought it would not hurt.

@Andy McDonnell I thought you might find it useful. Its all in the spin on the words.

Should be simular country wide I guess then. So Notts/Derby's police hopefully won't slap me with a fine when Bill and Moz go through a local picturesque village at 110mph!

 

[pgunter]

@Grumpy I would just email the contact email addresses to get confirmation. Remember.. its a 'Tour with like minded owners' not a rally or car club day out. Let us all know what they say.. as it would be good to build up a thread with responses so that if one force was different to the others we could ask why.

 

[Grumps]

@Grumpy I would just email the contact email addresses to get confirmation. Remember.. its a 'Tour with like minded owners' not a rally or car club day out. Let us all know what they say.. as it would be good to build up a thread with responses so that if one force was different to the others we could ask why.

Fair point Paul. I'll get on to it when we're back home.

 

[pgunter]

As an update I have today received even more emails from the parts of the Police Forces I contacted. Interesting as they might have thought we were up to something when you get a reply from The Strategic and Tactical Operations Department and also an item regarding Public Order.


Mr Gunter,

Thank you for the email.

In relation to your "touring" day, I can suggest the following as best practise and as a way of stopping you and your group from causing worry or concern to local communities and local police forces.

Always abide by the rules of the road - Highway Code, Road traffic Regulations and Offenders act.

Do not drive in a manner that will cause other road users to become infuriated or annoyed.

Always adhere to the direction given by traffic lights, and do not "force" yourselves into situations where group members are trying to stay in a convoy at the expense of other road users.

Essentially this group drive out is a group of friends going for a drive, and nothing more than that other than the same meeting and break points.

With this in mind there shouldn't be much in the way of any impact on communities and the strategic road networks.

I hope that this helps.

regards

Barney
PC 2781 Hockley
Strategic & Tactical Operations Department
Joint Operations Unit
02380 604712
http://www.hampshire.police.uk/internet/advice-and-information/general/event-planning

From: Mundy, Martin
Sent: 13 July 2015 13:39
To: OPS - PUBLIC ORDER & DOMESTIC EXTREMISM Mailbox
Subject: FW: Request for Advice regarding The Public Order Act of 1986 part 2 section 11. Car Convoys.



Please see below, personnally I don't think we need to be informed under s11 of the Public Order Act (regarding processions) in this case but please review.


Regards,

TPS 3109 Martin Mundy
Hampshire Constabulary and Thames Valley Police Joint Operations Unit, Whitchurch Police Station,
Dances Lane, Whitchurch, Hampshire. RG287EG.
External: 101 Internal: 624 289 Mob: 07795453850
Email: martin.mundy@hampshire.pnn.police.uk
Website: www.hampshire.police.uk
Twitter: @HantsPolRoads @tvprp

 

[hard top]

You opened a can of worms mate. They have got your contact details. They will be watching you.

 

[pgunter]

@hard top I think they realise who I speak with on this forum more to the point.. lol..

 

[hard top]

Well, that's Gaz in trouble then......

 

[Phil]

Great response from the police and very useful information.

 

[zedonist]

Bet you get a different response from West Midlands area especially Black Country and Cannock, car cruising is banned, interested in a response to them from your email, probably arrest you in the middle of the night...snatch squad stylie

 

[andyglym]

Bet you get a different response from West Midlands area especially Black Country and Cannock, car cruising is banned, interested in a response to them from your email, probably arrest you in the middle of the night...snatch squad stylie

My sister-in-law is a copper in the West Midlands (I've had counseling), I'll ask her for a formal response and post it on here when I get a chance.

Oh, she lives in Bloxwich!! Eh?

 

[zedonist]

She probably already has my number, ask her why she hasn't called...

 

[pgunter]

@zedonist it's a 'tour' of like minded owners. It's not a 'cruising'... Lol... We are more refined lol.. Haha

 

[zedonist]

What you call a tour the residents will call cruising...trust me live next door to one of the biggots...