How much!!!!

[Bozzy]

Whilst on a lovely mid week break in the zed, a slight problem arose .
Horrible grinding noise from the front brakes.
Discs and pads looked fine, until I felt the inside of the nearside disc. Sharp grooves around it, obviously pointing to the pad having worn out completely.
All the other pads have plenty of meat on them though.

As we were in skegness at the time, I called in at one of @t-tony favourite places .
They wouldn't replace just the pads so they quoted me for new discs as well........£295 .
So I unpolitely declined.
Went to a garage round the corner where they're happy to replace just the pads for £80.
Not particularly cheap I thought but I'm not equipped to do it myself out here, so it's booked in for tomorrow a.m.

Can you guess who gave the first quote ?.

 

[andyglym]

Whilst on a lovely mid week break in the zed, a slight problem arose .
Horrible grinding noise from the front brakes.
Discs and pads looked fine, until I felt the inside of the nearside disc. Sharp grooves around it, obviously pointing to the pad having worn out completely.
All the other pads have plenty of meat on them though.

As we were in skegness at the time, I called in at one of @t-tony favourite places .
They wouldn't replace just the pads so they quoted me for new discs as well........£295 .
So I unpolitely declined.
Went to a garage round the corner where they're happy to replace just the pads for £80.
Not particularly cheap I thought but I'm not equipped to do it myself out here, so it's booked in for tomorrow a.m.

Can you guess who gave the first quote ?.

KwikFit

 

[t-tony]

Ha. . . . . Ha . . . . No, sorry Steve I can't bring myself to say it mate.

Tony.

 

[mrscalex]

If the pads on only 1 corner have gone that suggests the caliper is binding. You should check that out. Furthermore if so the disc may have heated up and warped.

And if you’re saying a disc has been left on that’s got scores in it that’s not good either. A potential MOT fail or advisory.

Either of the above could mean loss of braking.

If I’m misunderstanding apologies.

 

[t-tony]

I would think Steve is looking to get his car home without leaving his family jewels as payment, don't you?

Tony.

 

[Bozzy]

Yes.....bloody robbing Kwik Fit .....should have know better.
I'm reluctant to replace the discs as they're Black Diamond ones and weren't cheap.
May see if it can be skimmed at a later date, if that's possible ?.

 

[Faheem]

That's unlucky Steve. I replaced my pads with EBC redstuff and also did my discs <3000 miles ago.

Front offside disc is now warped and the pad is warn unevenly... think the caliper has been sticking on that side.

As Rob says, might be worth checking the caliper once you're back home.

 

[Jack Ratt]

Had a very similar problem on Polly our little doggy runabout VW Polo. One front brake pad had split in half and had come away from the backing plate and the car juddered really badly on braking. I was only at Ladock Woods which is about 4 miles from our house so got the car home. Went online and got new front disks and pads from Euro Car Parts for just over £50 all in. I'll be changing the rear disks and pads soon too.

 

[Bozzy]

Had a very similar problem on Polly our little doggy runabout VW Polo. One front brake pad had split in half and had come away from the backing plate and the car juddered really badly on braking. I was only at Ladock Woods which is about 4 miles from our house so got the car home. Went online and got new front disks and pads from Euro Car Parts for just over £50 all in. I'll be changing the rear disks and pads soon too.

I'm leaning towards the pad breaking apart as there was none of the usual shaking associated with a stuck caliper (both are only about 4yr old).
Had a look at e.c.p and can buy new Brembo pads and discs for less than £100 with a promo discount.

 

[Bozzy]

That's unlucky Steve. I replaced my pads with EBC redstuff and also did my discs <3000 miles ago.

Front offside disc is now warped and the pad is warn unevenly... think the caliper has been sticking on that side.

As Rob says, might be worth checking the caliper once you're back home.

Check that it's not just particles of the pads stuck to the discs mate, it gives the same feeling as warped discs.
I'm sure someone on here ages ago said it's near impossible to warp a steel disc.

 

[mrscalex]

I would think Steve is looking to get his car home without leaving his family jewels as payment, don't you?

Tony.

Would that preclude him from having further checks made when he got home as I suggested then?

 

[Mint]

...they quoted me for new discs as well........£295...

That's why they can give you a lifetime warranty...……………….or was that Halfords Autocentre.
Too much either way.

 

[Bozzy]

That's why they can give you a lifetime warranty...……………….or was that Halfords Autocentre.
Too much either way.

I think you're right about the warranty with k.f.
I only need it to last 100 miles though .

 

[t-tony]

Would that preclude him from having further checks made when he got home as I suggested then?

If that's what you were suggesting, no it wouldnt. But it read to me as though you thought he should have it all done before driving home. So if I got the wrong end of the stick . . . . .

Tony.

 

[mrscalex]

If that's what you were suggesting, no it wouldnt. But it read to me as though you thought he should have it all done before driving home. So if I got the wrong end of the stick . . . . .

Tony.

It seems clear enough to me Tony. And if I might say so considerate advice.

What disappoints me is 3 people like your post for signposting me. And no reaction on my post for sensible technical advice.

I’m on this forum to try and share knowledge around both ways. I’ll always put that first, particularly in a safety situation like this. If people want to think I’m a trouble maker it’s water off a ducks back to me, I’m here for the learning experience not to score popularity points.

To get back on track. A binding caliper does not necessarily judder. Is it a binding caliper? I don’t know but it’s sensible to check. The remnants of the old pads should be a very good clue as to what happened. The heat generated from a binding caliper will break up the surface as well as accelerate wear, cracking and pitting it. And you’d expect similar damage to both pads. If it’s pad failure then you’d expect one to look different to the other, though it’s not to say the ‘good’ pad wouldn’t have had consequential damage.

 

[Nodzed]

It seems clear enough to me Tony. And if I might say so considerate advice.

What disappoints me is 3 people like your post for signposting me. And no reaction on my post for sensible technical advice.

I’m on this forum to try and share knowledge around both ways. I’ll always put that first, particularly in a safety situation like this. If people want to think I’m a trouble maker it’s water off a ducks back to me, I’m here for the learning experience not to score popularity points.

To get back on track. A binding caliper does not necessarily judder. Is it a binding caliper? I don’t know but it’s sensible to check. The remnants of the old pads should be a very good clue as to what happened. The heat generated from a binding caliper will break up the surface as well as accelerate wear, cracking and pitting it. And you’d expect similar damage to both pads. If it’s pad failure then you’d expect one to look different to the other, though it’s not to say the ‘good’ pad wouldn’t have had consequential damage.

Rob, you and many others always give advice when asked for and people are appreciative of said advice from everyone, I think this was a genuine case of misunderstanding of what was said AND a bit of humour added in? there wasn't any dig at you I'm sure. Please lets not reduce this to just a topical forum, we need a laugh too, the humour on here and lack of squabbling is what sets us apart.

 

[Grumps]

Rob, you and many others always give advice when asked for and people are appreciative of said advice from everyone, I think this was a genuine case of misunderstanding of what was said AND a bit of humour added in? there wasn't any dig at you I'm sure. Please lets not reduce this to just a topical forum, we need a laugh too, the humour on here and lack of squabbling is what sets us apart.

Most eloquently put Nods.

 

[t-tony]

If it gave you offence Rob, I apologise. Knowing Steve and his car like I do I said what I said in humour not as a dig at you. Lighten up a bit, were not all out to get you mate.
Also I fitted a new O/S front calliper for Steve a couple of years ago so it’s most likely that the N/S has now failed and will get changed.

Tony.

 

[Bozzy]

All fixed .
We were all correct to be fair.
One slightly sticky caliper and all the front pads, once removed were shot.
However they have done a full day at Donington and two half hour sessions at Silverstone, so really it's my own fault as I really should have checked them over better.
@mrscalex , Rob I'm sorry if you felt offended as it was not intentional and I appreciate your help on here.

Off for a roof down drive out soon, don't know where and I don't care. Roads are dry and blue skies for now .

 

[mrscalex]

There's no worries. I'm not offended. My only point is to ensure what I hope was sound advice isn't diluted in favour of banter.

The post has now played out and reflects that unnaturally worn pads are an indication of something else, more often than not a sticking caliper. It does only need a slightly sticking caliper to do the damage. And that damage is potentially bad enough to cause loss of braking & control of the vehicle. I know this is stating the bleedin obvious to those in the know but we've got a responsibility to those who may not be so well versed and who could read this now, in 6 months or 6 years

Rebuilding the caliper is atually pretty simple as long as the bore isn't damaged. The fun and games are usually from seized up unions on the pipework and bleed nipples. And for me personally it's a pet hate manually bleeding the brakes afterwards so I use a pressurised bleeding tool. Any work on brakes presents a lucrative opportunity for any garage, not just Kwik Fit. I did the brake discs & pads all round last year on my brother's 1 Series. I think BMW wanted £650. The materials were under £200 from memory. A caliper rebuild kit is what - £20. I doubt you'd get change out of £200 supply (new caliper) and fit at a garage.